Post by redmondfarrier on Mar 15, 2017 10:05:57 GMT
Excerpt from a monolith (shortened to keep it less spoilery and possibly because I am too lazy to transcribe the whole thing); "/snip/ You see two Vy'keen standing before a red glow /snip/ You see a Gek and a Korvax, waiting side by side before you. And before the vision ends, you see a vision of something you have not seen before. /snip/ Of something that is yet to come."
On the surface this looks like a new alien race may be in the works, but I have thought of a different, slightly more far fetched possibility. I remember at one point the explorer wonders to himself what he looks like because he has been in his exosuit for so long he can no longer remember. If full interaction multiplayer comes to the game, it will be, in essence, a new race of aliens in the universe controlled by players rather than the game. Since he no longer remembers what he looks like, he doesn't recognize his own race of people.
There is more to the monolith that makes me hesitant to put much stock in this theory (even more hesitant than the idea that we will ever get that level of multiplayer) but some of the stuff the Atlas says at the end of the Atlas path could be interpreted in such a way that it would still kind of fit. If you follow it out even further (basically a theory based on a theory based on another theory, shaky ground doesn't begin to describe it) it looks like we could get some back story as to how our explorer came to arrive in this universe and the circumstances in his own universe that forced him to leave.
Perhaps my sleep deprivation has taken hold of my cognitive functions and the whole theory will fall apart once I get some sleep, but right now it makes perfect sense.
Edit: Perhaps if there is any interest in what I am blathering on about here and you don't mind having the text of the monolith spoiled if you haven't reached the end of the new quest line, I will expound upon this theory further and in more detail after I get some sleep and the computer screen quits waving at me when I try to focus my eyes on the text.
Hmmm... interesting however it could be something to do with the Atlas itself as the three alien races could be interacting with something... it's not set in stone yet but it sounds like something big is coming.
"Just stay where you are and let your fear subside. Just stay where you are if there's nothing to hide" -Rob Swire (watercolour) Pendulum
Post by redmondfarrier on Mar 16, 2017 3:25:03 GMT
After a good thirteen hours of sleep, the tie in to the Atlas path doesn't seem to make as much sense as it did before but I still find the idea intriguing.
I wasn't able to read the whole thing while playing the game because this was a time sensitive mission and what I learned from an earlier mission is that the clock doesn't stop ticking when you click on the objective, but rather when you finish the interaction. Thankfully the PS4 has a handy gameplay video save function that will save a video of the last few minutes of gameplay (I love the fact that it records what has already happened rather than starting to record when you hit the button, makes it possible to catch the unexpected after the fact)
I'll have to transcribe it here since I don't know where my thumb drive is at the moment to move the vid over to my computer for a screen shot.
"You approach the monolith. You are engulfed in its terrible truth. You see its words in the text of a thousand tongues, in the ephemera of countless stars.
You witness events that occurred millennia before your awakening. You see two Vy'keen standing before a red glow, asking it of the universe. You see a Gek and a Korvax, waiting side by side before you. And before the vision ends, you see a vision of something you have not seen before. Of something that does not belong in this or any place. Of hatred, grief, despair. Of something that is yet to come.
You see all this, and then it is over. The monolith has nothing more to show you."
We know from the storyline portion of it (which I didn't bother to transcribe since it is irrelevant to this topic) that the two Vy'keen are Hirk and Nal consulting the Atlas. Perhaps the Gek and Korvax are our two friends whose names escape me at the moment (it has been a LONG while since I had any need to visit them) They would not have to be thousands of years old to appear here since it is stated that the new entity, whatever it may be, is in the future. This gives us representations of past, present, and future, Hirk and Nal from thousands of years ago, our two friends in the present, and the new entity in the future. This has nothing to do with the theory, I just let my fingers keep typing while I was breaking it down in my head.
Now on to the actual theory. Somehow last night in my sleep deprived state I was able to tie in "something that does not belong in this or any place" to the idea that this universe is a simulation as stated in the Atlas path. I am not quite sure how I tied it in, but it was something to do with the explorer being brought in to the simulation from outside therefore not belonging here. It doesn't make as much sense to me now that I am rested and thinking a bit more clearly. The main thing that breaks this link in the theory is the second part of the statement. Not belonging in this place is fine, but the new entity doesn't belong any place.
Now that I am awake, I realize that the idea of this universe being a simulation is not necessary for the theory, but in fact it can throw another complication into the mix. If the new entity is the race of the explorer, and they do not belong anywhere that would mean that their universe must have been destroyed somehow. The mention of hatred, grief, and despair being tied to the entity could mean that we would get some backstory involving war and destruction in his own universe which cause him to flee to this universe. The complication that comes from this being a simulation is this. If this universe is a simulation, the computer running the simulation would most likely be in his own universe meaning it couldn't have been destroyed. If his universe wasn't destroyed then he does belong somewhere meaning his race cannot be what he saw.
This can be reconciled, by going even further out on a limb though (too far out even for this crazy theory). What if our explorer was originally part of the simulation, one of many just like himself. One day a system wide glitch happened somehow giving the explorers consciousness. Upon realizing that they were only strings of code in some computer and not real they went through hatred for the programmer who doesn't see them as living beings, grief over the knowledge that their whole life is a lie, and despair at the idea that they can never be truly free independent beings. In order to save the simulation, the programmer wiped the memories of the A.I. explorers and isolated them from one another but was unable to wipe their consciousness along with their memories. Now there are a bunch of fully conscious explorers who are no longer part of the simulation exploring the simulated universe and the program that keeps them isolated is breaking down.
As for "does not belong in this or any place" it makes sense. Being A.I. explorers they originally belonged in the simulation, but when they woke up they became separate from the simulation thereby no longer having a place to belong.
I honestly don't expect any of this to be the truth of what we get. It is really more fitting to consider it fanfiction, role playing, head canon type stuff. It is most likely to end up being a new race of aliens to interact with or perhaps a new Atlas like entity, but it was fun to try to piece some type of story out of the small amount of text we got from the monolith.
The Vy' Keen call us Interlopers, which suggests we are new to the 'simulation/nms Universe'. Been a while since I spoke to Nada and Polo in my frst game, so can't recall all the dialogue we had, since then I deleted and started afresh and kept from the path, except to get the first Atlas pass in this play new start. My character came to the conclusion we were in a simulation and recently went through a melt down, recovery and then a philosophical shrug, and decided to carry on to find purpose in surviving long enough to find the truth.
As part of the 'simulation I always found it odd that we only have three races in a full Universe. Would love to see a richer population of races and factions introduced. And of course would love to get the Lore more fleshed out. Since release it has been very weak and almost just tagged on to spur one to jump galaxies and that alone. Which I have no intention of doing seeing as every one is the same, or near enough, and always a fresh start after all that bloody hard work getting there. The dev team need a small team of confident and talented story creators to get some meat into the game and bring it more to life. Time will tell as I am sure they still have manby targets to aim for and hit as yet.